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Hi,

We have released a development release about a week ago. Probably not many people noticed - but it contains a revolution, and we'd like to know what you think about it: is it too brutal? Is it what you were longing for all your life?

The revolution I was referring to is not pink, orange, jasmine (is that a color?) or green: it's white and clean. It's ROOT's new default style and a modernization of the GUI look.

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See the release notes or this excerpt on how to avoid it - and please post your comments about how you think we can improve it! Olivier and Bertrand will definitely still tweak a few things over the next weeks - but if we don't get feedback then this is what you'll have for the next ROOT decade ;-)

Cheers

Comments

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 07/23/2015 - 21:28

This is looks much better now and will impress new users even more. I've been using something similar for a long time.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 07/23/2015 - 21:29

Hi lflexion,

Thanks for your feedback - glad you like it!

Cheers, Axel

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 07/23/2015 - 21:29

Now you should re upload some of the screenshots :)

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 07/23/2015 - 21:29

Hi Ozgur,

Yes, good point, I agree! I'll talk to Olivier and Bertrand - though I know they are very busy with converting the users guide to docbook (!) and the new GUI. So it might take a bit. But it will happen :-)

Cheers, Axel.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 07/23/2015 - 21:30 

converting the users guide to docbook

finally User Guide in "normal" format ...

and the new GUI

this is news ! maybe more info (new Recent Blog Posts). Anyway, thanks for great news.

Cheers, Jan

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 07/23/2015 - 21:30

Hi Jan,

Thanks for your comment! That's a good point: I will post what Olivier did with the Users Guide. It's still in the works - so wait a few days, please!

Cheers, Axel

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 07/23/2015 - 21:30

Good news :) I hope the next step for the default style will be not to have the color bar with "colz" option which may overlap the last number of the X axis. I saw so many figs with the former ugly default style from seniors scientists ^^

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 07/23/2015 - 21:30

This depends on the axis labels. But I agree we can improve the default. You have long labels ? May be post an example on the forum showing what you mean.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 07/23/2015 - 21:31

Hi Ruggero,

Yes, things happen. I interpret your comment as a positive one :-)

Cheers, Axel

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 07/23/2015 - 21:31

Hi Whitney,

Thanks for casting your vote!

Cheers, Axel.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 07/23/2015 - 21:31

Much better now, this will impress new users even more. I have been using something similar for a long time.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 07/23/2015 - 21:31

Hi Marcelo,

Thanks! For me it's not so much about impressing people but about providing defaults that reduce the amount of user intervention, i.e. that is "good enough" with respect to beauty and functionality. I think Olivier managed to find that configuration.

Cheers, Axel

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 07/23/2015 - 21:32

I don't like this new style. The result is more or less OK when drawing a simple image in a canvas, but the picture becomes unreadable when using multiple pads. In this case the fonts are hardly visible, there is no separation between pads and the titles are at a wrong position. mad

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 07/23/2015 - 21:32

Hi mad,

Thanks for your comment! The example I posted uses multiple pads, and while readability of the fonts is indeed an issue I don't see the other problems you mentioned. Could you post a screenshot on the forum?

Cheers, Axel.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 07/23/2015 - 21:32

Finally!

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 07/23/2015 - 21:32

I agree, the white background is a much, much better default. I also like the new default for col. The default blue for 1D histograms while however soon be draining my blue printer cartridge I fear.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 07/23/2015 - 21:32

I've been waiting for this for a long, long time... It'll greatly reduce the number of lines in my .rootlogon.C :)

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 07/23/2015 - 21:32

This is great! No more need to set SetStyle("Plain"). And no more ugly grey plots from new students :-)

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 07/23/2015 - 21:33

Hi Robert

Thanks for your comment! That's right, it's in my opinion even better than the plain style. It's based on a combination of the experiments' official styles, tweaked e.g. for backward compatibility.

Cheers, Axel

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 07/23/2015 - 21:33

Hooray! But now how will we tell when a plot was made by an undergrad summer student? :)