Please do not discontinue the windows distribution. It has been very helpful for our group. I'll take it as is. Phil Taddei ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anton Fokin" <anton.fokin@smartquant.com> To: "Nick van Eijndhoven" <Nick@phys.uu.nl> Cc: "roottalk" <roottalk@pcroot.cern.ch>; "Fons Rademakers" <Fons.Rademakers@cern.ch>; <dcasper@uci.edu> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [ROOT] Making test example on win98 > Well, > > Once Fons said (with sarcasm though) that they perhaps should sell ROOT for > windows as everybody does in the windows community and since windows itself > is a commercial os. Perhaps this is right the solution. Instead of having > lot of holes in the win distribution: missing GUI, threads, installations, > crashes and so on and still trying to maintain win version, why don't you > start taking money and employ _real_ windows experts. I mean you can not get > _real_ windows experts for free. That's what we've been dealing with during > last several years. _Real_ windows experts work for money: why on the Earth > one should learn windows to write free soft for ROOT? Or should we give up > windows distribution? > > Regards, > Anton > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nick van Eijndhoven <Nick@phys.uu.nl> > To: Anton Fokin <anton.fokin@smartquant.com> > Cc: roottalk <roottalk@pcroot.cern.ch>; Fons Rademakers > <Fons.Rademakers@cern.ch>; <dcasper@uci.edu> > Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 3:43 PM > Subject: Re: [ROOT] Making test example on win98 > > > > Hi Anton, > > It is indeed the crashes etc... w.r.t. some canvas actions which I am > referring to. > > For instance, if you have a histo and rightclick on one of the axes in > order to > > enter an axis title, the canvas disappears as soon as you have entered the > text. > > In the browser one can still see the canvas, but the only way of getting > the > > plot (in which indeed the axis text appears correctly) back again is to > create > > a new canvas and draw the histo again in that canvas. > > Setting selection criteria by rightclicking in a TTreeViewer window > however > > directly results in a crash of the ROOT session. > > Note that TTreeViewer also automatically opens 2 windows instead of only > 1. > > The latter has been observed also by the ROOT developers as far as I have > understood > > but so far the problem hasn't been fixed yet. > > > > In creating and executing my private programs and libs (i.e. 'batch' > work), > > everything works fine with the latest versions as far as I can see. > > So, it is mainly the interactive analysis work which can not be performed > > with version later than 2.22/10 on win98 machines, but needless to say > > this is a very important feature which needs to function properly. > > > > Cheers, > > Nick. > > > > -- > > Dr. Nick van Eijndhoven mailto:nick@phys.uu.nl http://www.phys.uu.nl/~nick > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Org.: Utrecht University/Nikhef, Department of Subatomic Physics > > Address: P.O. Box 80.000, NL-3508 TA Utrecht, The Netherlands > > Phone: +31-30-2532331(direct) +31-30-2531492(secr.) Fax: +31-30-2518689 > > NIKHEF: +31-20-5922028(direct) +31-20-5922000(secr.) Fax: +31-20-5925155 > > CERN: +41-22-7679751(direct) +41-22-7675857(secr.) Fax: +41-22-7679480 > > Offices: Buys Ballot lab. 710 (Utrecht) H350 (Nikhef) B23 1-020 (CERN) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Anton Fokin wrote: > > > > > > Hi Nick, > > > > > > actually I am not creating ROOT binaries from scratch but rather trying > to > > > compile my own (unix) project on win98. What are the problems around > root > > > 3.02 bins on win98? I've been quite successful with making my libs under > > > win98 and running exe and scripts, although I have noted that root > crashes > > > on some actions with canvas etc. > > > > > > PS. to "installshield" discussion. I checked out InstallShield coming > with > > > MSVC... It has "change registry" part in the install script, so what's > the > > > problem with setting paths under install? On the other hand what > prevents > > > you from writing a few lines in the shield script which will manually > add > > > two lines in autoexec.bat file? You have to restart com then but who > > > cares... > > > > > > Regards, > > > Anton > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Nick van Eijndhoven <Nick@phys.uu.nl> > > > To: Anton Fokin <anton.fokin@smartquant.com> > > > Cc: roottalk <roottalk@pcroot.cern.ch>; Fons Rademakers > > > <Fons.Rademakers@cern.ch>; <dcasper@uci.edu> > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 12:55 PM > > > Subject: Re: [ROOT] Making test example on win98 > > > > > > > Hi Anton, > > > > I am pleased to hear that you are creating ROOT binaries from scratch > > > > on a Win98 platform. > > > > As you know after ROOT 2.22/10 I have several problems when running > the > > > > ROOT binaries from the web on my win98 machine (you can ask Valery > Fine > > > > for details if you want). So win98 users are basically bound to stay > with > > > > the old 2.22/10 version. > > > > I would like to suggest that once you have succeeded to create a > > > completely > > > > working set of ROOT binaries on a win98 system, that this version will > > > also > > > > be made available to the outside world via the ROOT web pages. > > > > On the pages one could then indicate this version as win98 specific. > > > > Could the ROOT team please consider this, since in our group many > people > > > > use laptops and for these things we have the feeling that the flexible > > > win98 > > > > OS is much more convenient than winNT or win2000. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Nick. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Dr. Nick van Eijndhoven mailto:nick@phys.uu.nl > http://www.phys.uu.nl/~nick > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Org.: Utrecht University/Nikhef, Department of Subatomic Physics > > > > Address: P.O. Box 80.000, NL-3508 TA Utrecht, The Netherlands > > > > Phone: +31-30-2532331(direct) +31-30-2531492(secr.) Fax: > +31-30-2518689 > > > > NIKHEF: +31-20-5922028(direct) +31-20-5922000(secr.) Fax: > +31-20-5925155 > > > > CERN: +41-22-7679751(direct) +41-22-7675857(secr.) Fax: > +41-22-7679480 > > > > Offices: Buys Ballot lab. 710 (Utrecht) H350 (Nikhef) B23 1-020 > (CERN) > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > Anton Fokin wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > well, I was using Makefile included in the test directory. Yes, I > saw > > > > > Makefile.win32 in the same directory and I have tryied this one too > (and > > > it > > > > > works somehow). Anyway, I suppose that if there is a Makefile in the > > > binary > > > > > distribution, it should be naturally related to this specific > version of > > > the > > > > > distribution, so that a user can type nmake and get things compiled. > > > > > Moreover, there is "win32" portion of lines in the Makefile, so that > I > > > > > assume this file is the correct one. > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, what I need is a makefile which works on both linux and > win32, > > > > > depending on a platform. Do we have such clever one? I am not > win32/VC > > > > > expert, so that I would like to get my linux root programs easily > > > recompiled > > > > > under win32. I thought I can use generic ROOT test Makefile upper > part > > > for > > > > > that... Can I? > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Anton > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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